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Friday, October 27, 2006

seats of opportunity (part 2)

(part 1 here. Actually not really related)
  1. I pay bus fare, you pay bus fare, is it fair that a fat guy eats into my space? Imagine there was already a pole in between his seat and mine, yet his butt and arm still crossed the boundary. That's why I like SMRT buses, the boundary is clearer than on SBS Transit buses. Still, people continue to invade others' private space. Sometimes I wish there's a Berlin Wall in between seats.


  2. You are taking a nap on the bus. The seat beside you is empty. Someone lands his/her heavy butt onto the empty seat. By conservation of mass, the air in the cushion has nowhere to escape under the sudden force, and has to go to your side of the cushion. You experience a sudden upward force. Only occurs on SBS Transit buses


  3. Some people, out of some reasons (maybe they want to offer it to those who needs it more), just refuse to sit down on a bus, regardless of how empty or crowded the bus is. The problem is, they don't walk in, and they jam up the aisle, thus more people cannot board the bus. Didn't know sitting down can be such a big sacrifice to them.


  4. I saw someone taking a nap on the aisle seat, his head rocking left and right. Then his head hit a standing lady's butt.


  5. Someone's going to complain my blog is turning into a transport blog.

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19 Comments:

  • 1) I like SBS buses because much lesser insects like cockroaches in it. I've seen enough cockroaches in SMRT.

    2) Irritating, but fun. =)

    3) Consider this: this morning a girl with a large bag put it on the seat beside her and read her papers. People were standing in the aisle beside her seat and she did nothing until I think a lady asked if she could sit down.

    Those people calculated that it takes more energy to sit down and then stand up than it is for them to remain standing where they are. Moving to the back takes too much energy as well.

    4) What a nice, firm cushion. Beats hitting head on metal bar.

    By Anonymous tstar, at 10/27/2006 07:10:00 PM  

  • 3) by putting a bag on the seat beside you, you decrease the chance of someone taking that seat. A lot of people are reluctant to ask even if in the heart they are eager to sit.

    4) the lady seemed shocked. May not be firm anyway, belongs to an auntie age woman.

    By Blogger chillycraps, at 10/27/2006 07:34:00 PM  

  • 3) I suppose you mean that because it decreases the chances of somebody taking the seat, so decreases the chance of your head hitting the ceiling?

    4) Then a nice, soft cushion then. =D

    By Anonymous tstar, at 10/27/2006 07:45:00 PM  

  • 1. once spotted by my friend, two fat women occupying three mrt seats. i think people who occupy more space on board should pay more because they infringe on other people's rights to space and comfort. (but the fat people would say that i'm discriminating them, but aren't they actually discriminating the thin people?)

    2. i hate this. all people should slowly rest their butt on the seats, unless they have a heavy butt, then they shall endure the Stare. otherwise, if the bus is not crowded, always chope the other seat before going to bed.

    3. squeeze beside them, push them, then plonk yourself on that frigging empty seat, and sleep.

    4. slap him, he's a molester trying to hide his crimes. he's not really sleeping at all. castrate him.

    5. ask for a sponsorship from sbstransit?

    hehehe~

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/27/2006 09:09:00 PM  

  • 5. Sponsorship from sbs transit? he is toking bad about them leh.

    By Anonymous Nakazawa, at 10/27/2006 09:45:00 PM  

  • haha... he should ask for sponsorship from SMRT instead.

    By Anonymous tstar, at 10/27/2006 10:09:00 PM  

  • tstar: my head only hit ceiling when I take double-decker, or hit the top of the exit when alighting from ANY bus.

    xxoos: hahaha! I think they should charge the bus fare by WEIGHT! Afterall the heavier the load, the more fuel the engine needs to burn.

    It was so funny when I saw the woman jumped when her butt got headered...

    nakazawa: yah I don't like SBS Transit. SMRT is already in its worst state, so it can only get better but not worse than its current state.

    By Blogger chillycraps, at 10/27/2006 10:46:00 PM  

  • ok I think we should stop discriminating against the fatter ones... your comment really sounded very very wrong, might offend some people... just a word of advice.

    By Anonymous tstar, at 10/27/2006 11:01:00 PM  

  • I the non-fat person is always being discriminated by fat people! What right do they have to deny my right of private space? They have all to gain and nothing to lose, afterall they got more than what their bus fare entitled them.

    You just dunno what happened yesterday on the bus, the description too disgusting to say it here though. I got so pissed I almost told him to keep his meat to himself.

    and if they get offended, they just admit that they are FAT. Come and fall for the trap, flame me!

    By Blogger chillycraps, at 10/28/2006 08:55:00 AM  

  • wah.. like tat hor.. jialat man.. if they gonna charge fare by weight.. people in australia will find that they will have to pay more.. since they're quite big size.. wait a minute.. it's time they pay more!!! international students are paying adult fares while australians studying are paying concession!!! it's high time they pay more!!! hahahaha..

    By Blogger DJ Niwde, at 10/28/2006 09:30:00 AM  

  • I don't know what to say. I don't understand what you mean by you being discriminated by them. Do they look at you oddly? Keep away from you? Say that you should not be taking the public transport because you are thin?

    It's just that if they get offended, it won't be that they won't admit they are not fat. They are probably embarrassed as well that they had to take up more space. They will probably offended that they have to pay more just because they are fat. What if it is because of some illness that cause them to be this way? Or if it's in the genes, they have a higher chance of getting fat?

    I got sit with fat people before also, they mostly keep to themselves, or they have no choice, have to sit in because got people in the aisle. I dunno what happened to you on the bus so I can't say anything. But I suppose if it were me, I'd get pretty pissed as well. Think everybody would. Maybe they have to cut into your space coz got ppl in the aisle?

    Maybe I misread your comment. Even though it sounded to me as if you are asking only the fat to be weighed before they get on the bus because pt 1 in your entry talks about fat people and you mentioned about it again in your comment, you didn't specify that exactly. Maybe you meant that everybody should be weighed before we get on the bus, or have a tag or ez-link card that is adjusted according to our weights as to how much fare should be deducted. You are right, the heavier, the more fuel needed to burn. So if I misread, I guess this whole thing is invalid.

    And why do you sound like you are screaming at me. Maybe it is my fault to just warn you of what the masses out there who has no sense of humour (currently that includes me) and who reads your blog might think. My bad then.

    If you want you can choose to ignore my comment. Afterall I am only one very non-humorous reader amongst the many readers you have. The weightage of my words is only about 1/100. I'm sure there are people out there who agree with you. I can't laugh at it because I am not fat and I don't know how they think. I'm sure there are people out there who fits into the category of the person on the bus, and if they comment that they are fine with what you said, then I'm relieved. I am just writing this because I am uncomfortable with what you said and I choose to let you know what another person might think.

    Anyway you have the right to say what you want on your space. In a way it is your private space, though made public.

    By Anonymous tstar, at 10/28/2006 09:57:00 AM  

  • weight and size don't come in proportion all the time. There are bigger size people who weigh less than me. Here I have nothing against big size people's existence, I'm just suggesting that they should be considerate as well.

    Here I'm not trying to stripe fat people of their rights, but I'm just asking for mine back. C'mon I have fat friends and relatives as well.

    I usually have unpleasant experience with big size ppl on the longitudinal seats on double decker bus, ie I'm facing the asile. That day I was trying to sleep and this fat guy kept jerking his hand...

    ok lah, if I were them I would want to comfortably have a seat for my journey, but should it be at the expense of other people's discomfort?

    Honestly, if they pay more to occupy more space, I won't complain. If they pay twice their fare, they can have 2 seats to themselve and it seems fair. (then those standing will complain...)

    How to scream with words?

    By Blogger chillycraps, at 10/28/2006 04:49:00 PM  

  • How come the guy keep jerking his hand? Sounds so suggestive. haha..
    The idea of them paying twice so that they can sit on 2 seats don't sit (pun) well with me, but oh well...

    What really irks me are not fat people who takes up 2 seats but people who put their stuff on the other seat just because their laps are too delicate. On a side note, I've seen people put their stuff on the seat inside then when people want to move in, she points to the tiny drop of water on the seat.

    Yes, words can scream.

    By Anonymous tstar, at 10/28/2006 06:13:00 PM  

  • there isn't much of a difference between an inconsiderate person who takes up more than his right to occupying a space and a fat person who too takes up more than his right to occupying a space. during the non-peak hour, that's fine, but during the peak hours, the inconsiderate/fat person is infringing on the right to occupying a space of a thin/normal/considerate person.

    i think this infringement in right should be reimbursed to the thin person by another mean, ie cheaper fares, or increase fares for the fatter/inconsiderate person, if not that would be a form of discriminating the thin/normal/considerate person because of this infringement of their rights.

    logically, this also explains why babies are free from payment of fares, and children pay less.

    also, i personally believe that no one is naturally fat, unless he has some diseases or sickness (that i forgive them), but most people are fat because they eat too much or don't exercise, or some other stupid reason, that i think it's only their fault to blame cos they aren't doing anything to being a normal person. hence, since it's their fault, then they ought to shoulder the responsibilities for being fat, ie either diet, eat less, or pay more.

    hai... usually inconsiderate people can tell them off and call them don't be inconsiderate, but the fat people cannot say anything to them. they'll say it's discrimination. i'd think inconsiderate people are much easier to deal with since it's black and white clear.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/29/2006 12:19:00 AM  

  • haha~ think it's a bit too much to say it's their fault to be fat. They have their rights to be fat too. (then they will start saying they already sacrifice their money on food, so they should pay less for bus fare =P) xxoos: very dangerous leh, what if one day you accidentally grow *ahem* (fat)?

    that day I saw a guy putting his desktop computer's tower casing on the seat next to him, I very tempted to ask him to put it on his lap. (then it will become laptop) The fact that they treat a public bus as a cargo plane doesn't justify that they can put their cargo on another seat. There was the standing space near the bus exit anyway.

    By Blogger chillycraps, at 10/29/2006 06:19:00 AM  

  • yar! What if one day we become fat? It might happen when we get old or older.

    xxoos: I don't deny that when I see a fat person occupying 2 seats on a bus i feel slightly irritated because well, we all want to sit. Then it occured to me that I've seen big-sized people, not fat mind you, taking up as much space as well. Do they have to pay more too just because they are big-built? On a side-note, the irritating thing is that they purposely take up more space. i.e. They open their legs wide, don't move in, put their bags beside them, so that the space left is very little and we can't really put our whole butts down. It'd be safer standing up.
    And the same goes for the fat people. It is obvious that they can actually take up lesser space but it seems as if because they are fat, they think they have the right to 2 seats to themselves. It is their mindset that I do not like. Ok, this so goes against my earlier argument of them being embarrassed, but there are all types of people with different thinking.

    Children paying less because they are small-sized may be partly the reason, but also because they can't work yet. And I've seen fat children too... And once this big-sized kid sat beside me and I felt kind of intimidated... If you are talking about fares, I don't work but I'm in tertiary istitution and I have to pay freaking more than a secondary student and I'm thin! I demand to pay less! What about working people who are small-sized, thin etc? I beileve the fares system is built more on your age or status in society i.e. if you are studying (where?) or working and if you are young or old (how old?). A lot of these categories overlap, that's why children pay lesser...

    So what do you think the fat person should do today? Are they not entitled to sit when they paid the fare (not enough, in your opinion)? Or should they suck in their stomachs and try to occupy lesser space? Don't take the bus? Or should there be a sign on the buses saying that fat people should be standing up so that they don't infringe on the rights of the thinner people? Ok, the above are really acts of discrimination already.

    Anyway you sound as if you want to tell off a fat person. it seems extremely odd to be saying "excuse me, can you please take up less space? there are people who want to sit."

    I don't know about the whole paying thing because there are a lot of reasons that have to be considered. On the whole, I believe if the fat people know that others are irritated (for those among the fat who think they have the right to take up more space than their body needs) and tries, like everybody else on the bus, to not irritate anybody, I think it's perfectly fine if they have to take up a little more of my seat. But I'd prefer to sit on the outside, really. At least I can choose how much I want my personal space, if you get what I mean.

    chillycraps: if the bus was not crowded that's fine lah, but if it's not... Actually I also once did that, put whole bags of stuff on the seat on the bus (why did i take the bus!) I was damn embarrassed throughout the journey. From school all the way home too...

    By Anonymous tstar, at 10/29/2006 09:45:00 AM  

  • siu hang: if i'm fat, i'll die. i'll have no more face to live in the world.

    tstar: the point is anyone who occupies more than his entitled share of space should pay more, anyone who occupies less than his entitled space should pay less, so fat people/big sized people/inconsiderate people should pay more, but the thing about inconsideracy is that one can tell them off, ask them to be more considerate, but one cannot ask a fat person or big sized people to grow thinner or smaller size, hence i call for them rather than the inconsiderate people to pay more.

    maybe if the inconsiderate people after being told off do not act more considerately, we can impose fines on them. wahaha... then everybody will be more considerate, leaving us need to settle only the problem of the fat/bigger sized people.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10/29/2006 01:41:00 PM  

  • ... why did I bring this up...

    By Blogger chillycraps, at 10/29/2006 05:07:00 PM  

  • hehz... it makes interesting discussion...

    By Anonymous tstar, at 10/29/2006 06:23:00 PM  

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